of course, most of us realize this.
however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.
however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.
They have Stockholm Syndrome
That is a very good point you make, and I remember with my own experience I thought of ways and excuses to believe the WT leadership for a long time, but the child abuse was just too much for me. As has already been mentioned in another thread the publicity for such things is just scarce, especially here in Germany, and to be honest I only heard about child abuse within the bOrg at the end of last year.
of course, most of us realize this.
however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.
however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.
I talked quite extensively to a brother about the child sex abuse within the organization of JWs and how under the direction of the GB this is all kept quite.
His opinion; if the GB says that these things should be kept quite and the abusers are protected, then they must have a reason, therefore it is OK with him.
Needless to say this is not a person I want to associate with.
i know you all are aware of how little knowledge people have about jehovah's witnesses and topics men like bob bowen and women like barbara anderson tried to raise the level of public awareness that "the jehovah witness coming to your door might be a pedophile or child molester!
" what's gone wrong, has the society outsmarted the media or do people not really care what happens to young children?
if you took a survey trying to ascertain how many people walking through the grocery store, a target or upper class stores nordstroms, your going to be shocked how little people know.. if it's about the catholic church, those numbers shot through the ceiling, is this because there is no problem in the new world watchtower order or their better at damage control?
The JW's are an insignificant, minor, cult religion that simply does not come on to people's Radar.
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. A couple of weeks ago I had a conversation with someone who was quite knowledgeable about the press and their interaction with politicians, and basically neither politicians or the press are interested in JWs, they are simply too insignificant. I am in Germany BTW.
we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.
i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!
i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?
Absolutely fantastic.
the court on the rule of confidentiality of penitential communications and evidentiary privilege--.. decision reads:.
"the law generally protects the confidentiality of communications with clergy like those of kendrick to the elders here.".
"if the person has a constitutional right to independence in making religious choices, the recognition of an evidentiary privilege is an apt means of protecting that autonomy.
So correct me if I am wrong, but this confirms the Watchtower policy of not having to inform others of a child molester, which surely is negative for the Watchtower meaning that there will potentially be even more cases in the future. The GB do not have to change anything, being detrimental for children, confirming the demonic stance of the bOrg.
Although I look forwards to the Watchtower being hammered further on this aspect, I would rather see the problem solved and children protected.
could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..
well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.
in normal society this wouldn't happen.
i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.
.the beer is better at "worldy" parties also
thought this had to be made.
if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
just saw something in a german online news channel.. here is the translation:.
pope wants to prosecute bishops covering up abuse.
during his tenure the former pope benedict dismissed hundreds of pedophile priests for child abuse.
Just saw something in a German online News Channel.
Here is the translation:
Pope wants to prosecute bishops covering
up abuse.
During his tenure the former Pope
Benedict dismissed hundreds
of pedophile priests for child abuse.
Very often, however suspected clergymen were displaced,
and allegations of abuse were covered up. Pope Franziskus
wants to
change that:
The head of the
Catholic Church wants to set up a court to fight
against abuse cover up.
The court is to
prosecute bishops who covered up cases
of sexual abuse by clergy in their dioceses.
I think JWs should petition the GB to do the same thing for COs and DOs who cover up child abuse among the congregations. The only problem is that the R&F JWs do not even know that there is a problem. But I do consider this a very positive thing for the Catholic Church to be doing.
